I mean it's true. Save for maybe the few operators around here, if you wake up in the dead of night to antifa Karen slamming in your door then you're probably better off with your granpappys scattergun. Less aiming, less to go wrong and since you're not wearing pants and your eyes are sleepy and can't see good. Just keep pumping and dumping. M1897 for best slam fire effect.
Now, if antifa Karen has a bunch of her latte leninists with her then grab the AR. Just remember, all the laws change once they are off your property.
inb4 muh reliability with light 1/8 oz target loads
If you be shooting buckshot or slugs, shits gonna cycle. I know, you can 1 pump really fast. Me too. However, Ive short stroked my pump gun shooting skeet so many times, because I was trying to go too fast.
My personal HD shotty is a 930 with 9+1 of 00 buck. Thats a lot of dense balls in the general vicinity of the baddy
This is the fuddiest shit I’ve ever seen; it’s like 1911 retardation repackaged.
Ammo Capacity, Engagement Distance, Accuracy, Inability to Oper9 with toes, weakness against plates, poor mobility, inability to effectively suppress, not zap-suitable....
For home defense biggest disadvantage to a shotgun is noise. Makes it questionable indoors IMO. Short barrel pumps are frickin loud.
Also, seen evidence that long skinny bullets like 5.56 M855 will tumble when the hit sheetrock, reducing their effectiveness through drag quickly afterward. An advantage in home defense IMO. Even birdshot and pistol rounds go through sheetrock like nothing.
That said, if you want a single gun for everything(bird hunting, deer hunting, defense), a pump shotgun is probably it, for the sole reason that it is the only legal option for most bird hunting. It is a good option for home defense. It is a poor but workable option for deer. You are also covered if your home ever gets invaded by geese.
why have one gun for home defense? If you can't take cover behind the dresser without stepping over two other loaded guns then you're not keeping enough guns around for defense.
why reload when you can just always be fighting your way to the next already loaded gun?
So, self defense typically takes place at pistol ranges.
Shotguns ballistically are giant pistols with slugs that make them useful out to 75-100yds.
Erego, a good shotgun, expertise in its use and some ammo is capable of a great many things.
I've always really liked shotguns. They do some great work with the right considerations.
That said my general go to is a 9mm carbine because i can hit post it notes at hd distance and do so repeatedly.
Iove my Benelli but i worry about overpenetration with 00 and also have yet to find a light mounting option that suits me.
I mean it's true. Save for maybe the few operators around here, if you wake up in the dead of night to antifa Karen slamming in your door then you're probably better off with your granpappys scattergun. Less aiming, less to go wrong and since you're not wearing pants and your eyes are sleepy and can't see good. Just keep pumping and dumping. M1897 for best slam fire effect.
Now, if antifa Karen has a bunch of her latte leninists with her then grab the AR. Just remember, all the laws change once they are off your property.
Not muh AR, but why not a semi shotty
inb4 muh reliability with light 1/8 oz target loads
If you be shooting buckshot or slugs, shits gonna cycle. I know, you can 1 pump really fast. Me too. However, Ive short stroked my pump gun shooting skeet so many times, because I was trying to go too fast.
My personal HD shotty is a 930 with 9+1 of 00 buck. Thats a lot of dense balls in the general vicinity of the baddy
This is the fuddiest shit I’ve ever seen; it’s like 1911 retardation repackaged.
Ammo Capacity, Engagement Distance, Accuracy, Inability to Oper9 with toes, weakness against plates, poor mobility, inability to effectively suppress, not zap-suitable....
And importantly, both jam so often
Shotgun is good to keep by the bed, and food worthy but not so boog worthy
What pistol are you using that pierces plates?
I don’t own guns because they’re bad and evil and think of the children but I’ve heard great things about black tip 300BO and xm855
Tokarev.
Just like commisar used to blat conscripts with.
crack siiiiiip yeap, pump shotgun is all you need they’ll go runnin when they hear you rack a shell in
muh ammo capacity is for cops who can’t shoot, don’t miss and a 3 inch magnum load of #4 buck 12 gauge can put 40 pellets into someone
Iz dat yew frum da U toobz?
For home defense biggest disadvantage to a shotgun is noise. Makes it questionable indoors IMO. Short barrel pumps are frickin loud.
Also, seen evidence that long skinny bullets like 5.56 M855 will tumble when the hit sheetrock, reducing their effectiveness through drag quickly afterward. An advantage in home defense IMO. Even birdshot and pistol rounds go through sheetrock like nothing.
That said, if you want a single gun for everything(bird hunting, deer hunting, defense), a pump shotgun is probably it, for the sole reason that it is the only legal option for most bird hunting. It is a good option for home defense. It is a poor but workable option for deer. You are also covered if your home ever gets invaded by geese.
wut
... there's laws about guns...?
Yeah I’m pretty confused over here
Can only use a shotgun with no more than 3 shells to hunt ducks under the Migratory Bird Treaty act
reeeeeeeetarded
Oh I see you practice bird law also.
Hlobart, as a fellow bird hunter, I feel it necessary to let you know: nobody on this website gives a fuck about our other past times.
It’s not a bad thing. It just IS.
A shotgun might be the only legal way to bird hunt, but a bren or BAR with giggle mode is the only fun way to bird hunt.
5.5” barrel 300AAC. Suppressed. More boolits
Yes
why have one gun for home defense? If you can't take cover behind the dresser without stepping over two other loaded guns then you're not keeping enough guns around for defense.
why reload when you can just always be fighting your way to the next already loaded gun?
Pump shotgat?
That's a weird way of saying PKM...
Is this picture taken in that new HDMI quality I hear all the kids talking about
Cant shoot drago breath out of an AR, thatll stop a robbery real quick
Nothing scarier to a burglar than hearing the "chick, chick" of a shotgun in the dark.
JUST WALK OUT ON YER PORCH AND FIRE TWO SHOTS IN YHE AIR FROM YER DUBBIL BARIL
Except completely giving away your position
A Diablo 12GA Shotgun is on my wish list. The beauty of a pump is the sound it makes. That sound smells like victory.