The gubmint: WE FINNA SEND TROOPS AFTER YOU DOMESTIC TERRIES. the troops:
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What problems did you recall, or did you just not like 'em?
As a 'tist I always like hearing what people thought about guns they were forced into carrying.
Beretta's early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when the 92 came out in '76 I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole series has clear, crisp lines and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the user a big boost. They've been compared to Walther, but I think Beretta has a far more moustachioed, ante pasta sense of design.
As a design, they don't look bad and I agree about your thought of the look - it sort of defined what a pistol was for many years similar to the colt 1911 in it's time and even now. However, after rattling around the inventory for years and having God knows how many rounds put through them, they lost a lot of the swagger imo and would jam often, shoot inconsistent groupings, and for me it just didn't fit my hand well. I enjoyed the fielding of the M17 because i shoot it great, and i got it brand spanking new. I was literally the only person to have fired that weapon. sincerely wish I could have "lost" it after that deployment and paid the $125 dollar FLIPL for it... buuut the army freaks out about losing weapons unless you're a leftist politician or have a star... but i'm being redundant as those are the same things these days.
Yes, it is a government retardation problem not a gun problem
I had gathered some knowledge of problems these have had.
Worn and cracked locking blocks. Cracked slides. Frame intended to last 'n' rounds for lifetime but military service lifetime is 'n(5)' rounds. Checkmate brand magazines have coating that does not do well in dusty or sandy environments.
I see it every day at my work, but with industrial equipment. Shit gets worn out and needs to be replaced, but it works juuuust good enough to not be broke so it never gets replaced.
Yep, exactly. it is a testament to it's design that they were able to last as long as they did, especially under the maintenance and use/abuse they received.
Industrial equipment in private practice i think is a little more understandable since profits are the concern. If it is down for mx for x hours a month causing y loss of production/profits and repair costs, but the replacement would be z hours down and e cost of replacement and installation cost, and z+e is greater than x+y than unless you can get a consideration of predictability, increased production through upgrade, reduced labor cost, or something else to tip the balance, you're always going to stick with the old equipment/part.
The military however has a greater imperative in the instantaneous full functioning use of a device/system/piece of equipment under adverse environmental conditions which demands a different metric. The problem is that those using the equipment aren't the same as those buying it and the military has no value for time. so even if it takes 14 hours to service and repair an aging pos for every hour of use, they just make their workforce work those long hours and get to retain the use without assuming any cost... until you look at retention... but they don't like that part because it means there might be a problem with them the people in charge.
Beretta isn't a design problem, it is a government problem.