Literally everything you just said is a strawman, as I never made these arguments. I’ll address them anyhow, though:
Hold my representatives accountable by... voting for the party of sweeping gun bans?
Or are you a lolbertarian whose party hasn't run a quality candidate in, well ever?
Giving up your rights to own the cons. What a plan. Are you the same retard saying "BiDeN iS BeTtEr On GuNs" on the discord
No, no, and also no. Plus I don’t have discord. Holding your representatives accountable involves directly communicating to them when they do wrong, i.e. letters, online petitions, and town halls. It also involves communicating to others about them, i.e. not fellating them over doing the bare fucking minimum or less to protect the 2A.
Also Biden can’t be better on guns because he literally doesn’t know what his stance on anything is. The guy is straight up Theimzin it.
This isn't voting for the lesser of two evils, it's voting for outright bans or the party who can be convinced to pass our shit. Instead of trying to convince them to do anything retards like you just demand we vote for someone who will either gleefully vote for the ban, or someone who will never win.
You actually just defined voting for the lesser of two evils. ‘Please Mr. Government, may I have some rights please? The Da are so scary but maybe if vote for you then possibly you could might maybe perhaps be convinced to allow me my rights.
I also haven’t demanded you vote for anyone. Please stop putting words to me that I didn’t say. I, once again, have stated that you need to hold your reps accountable. If you aren’t creative enough to come up with ways to do that other than voting them out, that sounds like a cognitive problem on your end. I suggest picking up books on critical thinking.
You know why the lefties keep winning? Because they never break ranks
They’re also morally bankrupt, and it almost seems like you’re trying to justify your own abdication of morality to ‘win’ against them. Perhaps, instead, you should look at ways to educate and mitigate their fears so we can make allies and work together on fixing our country.
Or, y’know, you can just keep up the neverending stream of argumentative fallacies.
Edit: oh, and way to completely dodge responding to my calling of your assertion that the HPA was anything other than bullshit
The left is never going to listen to you you delusional moron. They take the side of multi billion dollar hedge funds and call everyone nazis and white supremacists.
You're insane if you think the average D voter even thinks about the bills they're going to pass. These midwits don't actually pay any attention to what's going on and if you try and show them they just outright ignore you.
Even if you convince normal, every day D voters they're still going to vote for the same people over and over again like they have been for decades, because they don't care. They don't care about being able to own a gun, and even if they did, they don't care enough to know what they're actually voting for.
Just look at the pipefitting unions who are all mad at biden for doing exactly what he said he would do.
It sure is cute that you think you can reach across the aisle when the D's are off in la la land and the R's are just right of center.
I'm just going to ignore everything you say about morality. You wouldn't know morals if they crawled up your ass.
That was a pretty lengthy way of saying ‘I don’t have any rebuttals to your arguments and I’m too weak-willed of a coward to take the moral high road and try to fix things.’
I’ve said nothing morally objectionable; at least not to anyone who believes in life, liberty, or property. Do us all a favor and please never argue on our behalf. You aren’t very good at it.
How many liberal votes have you changed? What have you done to change anyone's minds on anything related to guns?
Millions of liberals bought guns this summer, they still voted for the candidate who outright said he would ban guns. Please, enlighten me on what arguments you have used to make people change the way they vote.
Doesn't seem to me that the "high road", whatever the fuck you think that means, is doing anything. The right never gets anything done because we fall into worse purity spirals than even the crazy left. Look at what they're saying about Cruz on patriots.win over a two minute statement out of an hour long podcast where he agrees with 99% of what they want.
This is why we lose, and will keep losing. We demand 100% allegiance to our ideals, every group on the right does it so we never end up agreeing on what to do.
Again, that’s a bunch of absolute statements. They aren’t incorrect or even misleading but they also aren’t entirely true. If we’re going anecdotal, I’ve actually changed quite a few leftists minds on issues personally. Unfortunately, when our only presidential options are an arrogant windbag cunt of a man or actual fucking tyrants, it’s a hard to sell to change some voting habits.
I focus on attempting to sway their ideas at the state level and hope for the best; you can’t do anything but educate people, hope they accept it/act accordingly, and prepare yourself for the worst case scenario.
Literally everything you just said is a strawman, as I never made these arguments. I’ll address them anyhow, though:
Also Biden can’t be better on guns because he literally doesn’t know what his stance on anything is. The guy is straight up Theimzin it.
I also haven’t demanded you vote for anyone. Please stop putting words to me that I didn’t say. I, once again, have stated that you need to hold your reps accountable. If you aren’t creative enough to come up with ways to do that other than voting them out, that sounds like a cognitive problem on your end. I suggest picking up books on critical thinking.
They’re also morally bankrupt, and it almost seems like you’re trying to justify your own abdication of morality to ‘win’ against them. Perhaps, instead, you should look at ways to educate and mitigate their fears so we can make allies and work together on fixing our country.
Or, y’know, you can just keep up the neverending stream of argumentative fallacies.
Edit: oh, and way to completely dodge responding to my calling of your assertion that the HPA was anything other than bullshit
The left is never going to listen to you you delusional moron. They take the side of multi billion dollar hedge funds and call everyone nazis and white supremacists.
You're insane if you think the average D voter even thinks about the bills they're going to pass. These midwits don't actually pay any attention to what's going on and if you try and show them they just outright ignore you.
Even if you convince normal, every day D voters they're still going to vote for the same people over and over again like they have been for decades, because they don't care. They don't care about being able to own a gun, and even if they did, they don't care enough to know what they're actually voting for.
Just look at the pipefitting unions who are all mad at biden for doing exactly what he said he would do.
It sure is cute that you think you can reach across the aisle when the D's are off in la la land and the R's are just right of center.
I'm just going to ignore everything you say about morality. You wouldn't know morals if they crawled up your ass.
That was a pretty lengthy way of saying ‘I don’t have any rebuttals to your arguments and I’m too weak-willed of a coward to take the moral high road and try to fix things.’
I’ve said nothing morally objectionable; at least not to anyone who believes in life, liberty, or property. Do us all a favor and please never argue on our behalf. You aren’t very good at it.
How many liberal votes have you changed? What have you done to change anyone's minds on anything related to guns?
Millions of liberals bought guns this summer, they still voted for the candidate who outright said he would ban guns. Please, enlighten me on what arguments you have used to make people change the way they vote.
Doesn't seem to me that the "high road", whatever the fuck you think that means, is doing anything. The right never gets anything done because we fall into worse purity spirals than even the crazy left. Look at what they're saying about Cruz on patriots.win over a two minute statement out of an hour long podcast where he agrees with 99% of what they want.
This is why we lose, and will keep losing. We demand 100% allegiance to our ideals, every group on the right does it so we never end up agreeing on what to do.
Again, that’s a bunch of absolute statements. They aren’t incorrect or even misleading but they also aren’t entirely true. If we’re going anecdotal, I’ve actually changed quite a few leftists minds on issues personally. Unfortunately, when our only presidential options are an arrogant windbag cunt of a man or actual fucking tyrants, it’s a hard to sell to change some voting habits.
I focus on attempting to sway their ideas at the state level and hope for the best; you can’t do anything but educate people, hope they accept it/act accordingly, and prepare yourself for the worst case scenario.