Wait wait wait wait one fucking minute bro. You mean to tell me you knew who all these empires were advanced and you still said Africans never invented civilization or written word knowing all those people existed? That's a special kind of stupid. Certainly Semitic tribes were close to Europeans that doesn't make them not Africans. But who cares let's get to the real shit then! North Africa certainly are genetically different from sub-saharans but that's not the argument you wanted to have and you apparently have some knowledge of African history. Now maybe you have more knowledge of African history than me because my dissertation was on bronze age Battle tactics which means I'm reading about a lot of African goat battles. So in that case then we can go really deep into African history.

While I agree that the left wing likes to trump up Mali as some kind of wakanda you can't deny that it wasn't effective empire. Sure they had gold and they used that resource to their best interest I'm not really sure how you fault them for that.

I know what you're waiting for me to say "Aksumite Empire!" to which you will guffaw because they traded with the Romans in the first century and we're christians and will throw out their writing system so, skip that one.

First then, the Kerma https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-africa/forgotten-kingdom-kerma-and-its-incredible-deffufas-006597 those fuckers built some shit. If you're into pre-Clovis stuff then these guys are all sorts of cool. But for regular folk it's notable what they accomplished WITHOUT animals

The Mapungubwe which became Zimbabwe? Short lived but they did the stuff you would attribute to empire.

Want me to say Zulu? Nah. Too easy.

Next I'd say look at Macrobia and the absolutely insanely large trade networks they had. So large that Cambyses (real or fake, Bardia anyone???) got tangled up with them and lost an army trying to cross the desert. Yes a Persian army beaten by a desert. Persian history is super bland but it's clear these Macrobians didn't fuck around. Even Herodotas of helikarnasus talked about them https://www.somaliwave.com/index.php?threads/who-were-the-macrobians.1706/ (sorry I can't find a better link but I can point you to books)

How about Maravi? They were in tight with Zheg He's trade stuff (if memory serves) and we're alligned with the Bantu. Which you'll remark "were slavers for Muslims and Christians" and I'll say yes! Duh! What's your point? Slaves have always existed. https://sovereignnations.com/2018/04/30/history-arab-slave-trade-africa/

Thoughts?

I always wondered why they didn't take to the sea in boats like just about every other culture did. Seriously asking.

See, this is the kind of stuff I like, I won't bury the lead, you're wrong, like all wrong, and I'll prove it. Then you'll call me names or say it's a conspiracy or some other bullshit and go back to doing whatever low grade morons do all day...what's that called...Fortnight?

The entire Mediterranean was interconnected sure, your access to bloodlines is retarded because that would flow both ways, you know, like a society. But remember the Pyramids were built in fucking 2600 BC https://www.ancient.eu/article/862/the-step-pyramid-of-djoser/ and obviously the Egyptians existed earlier than that, much much earlier as the First Dynasty is like 3100 BC https://www.ancient.eu/First_Dynasty_of_Egypt/ What were our european ancestors doing then? Maybe stone henge?

Clearly, that First Dynasty predates recorded European history. Also Ptolemaic Egypt was Greek YOU GOT ONE RIGHT! BUT, founded in 305 BC. So like almost 3000 years after First Dynasty. Oof.

Light skinned africans are (wait for it) light skinned. Red hair is found all over africa, north and south of the Sahara (Himba people of namibia) and eye color also is wide spread, red hair and colored eyes are found in the Eurasian steppe and in Australia. WAIT YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE RIGHT! Egyptians certainly took slaves, we know this because, as you said, we have hieroglyphics about it. In case you weren't aware, hieroglyphics are a written language. They wrote it all over there massive empire that was big enough to traverse a continent and take slaves then build huge buildings that still stand.

There are no indigenous domesticable animals in Sub Sahara. Dumb people think because Zebras and horses look alike they are able to be domesticated but they aren't. Even today we can't domesticate Zebras because they are fucking retarded. https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/animals/we-domesticated-horses-why-not-zebras.html. They in fact are not as retarded as you, because Musk Ox don't even live in Africa. Did you mean Cape Buffalo? And are you too dumb to know a cape buffalo isn't a water buffalo? Because water buffalo also don't live in africa. That fucking Cape Buffalo is a tank with hooves and had NEVER been domesticated. It's one of Africas biggest killers even today. This is why express and magnum ammo is used on them.

Big cats are able to be domesticated but why? They require more food input than humans and are direct food competitors and you can't use them for work, or battle, or transportation. The term you meant was pet. Good luck catching a tiger with spears! No one domesticated big cats until sort of recently. Also they didn't have doggos, no doggos that the ATF shoots anyway. They had African Wild Dogs which are closer to Hyenias and, you guessed it (well you didn't but the smart people reading this did), they have never been domesticated.

You last statement is extra dumb, even dumb for you. Seriously impressively.dumb for a backwards racist. They DID trade for those things, especially after contact with other cultures. By this point though the damage was done. Rome toppled North Africa (Scippio) during the Punic wars. Rome also did the same to Europe coincidentally. Then the Muslims conquered Africa and are still, basically, there. As for sub saharan it was the opposite of what you think. They did trade for those things, have you ever noticed how many spices Indian food and eastern/southern african foods share? Wonder why. So if Africans didn't get animals as force multipliers until long after Euros and Asians then Africans were pretty far down the tech tree when the fighting started. You can imagine how that ended. You realise the Americas had the same plight? With the exception of Llamas (cringy drama lamas) in southern south america they had nothing. The Spanish guarded horses like the weapons they were and the South Wester Indians didn't have access to them until the 16th century. The Komanche went from dirt dwellers to human blenders of hooves in about two centuries. Seriously rivaling the mongols or Scythians as riders. But there's a long time between stirrup and gunpowder on the tech tree https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Summer-Moon-Comanches-Powerful/dp/1416591060

In summation (and in seriousness) the totality of human existence is vast and, while I'm not excusing the situation blacks in america have been put in and to a large extent put themselves into, it's better to realize that things are complicated and generally multifaceted and that history is WAY bigger than people realize. I should know, I still don't have enough degrees to be taken seriously on acedmia (and I have like 4)