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See, this is the kind of stuff I like, I won't bury the lead, you're wrong, like all wrong, and I'll prove it. Then you'll call me names or say it's a conspiracy or some other bullshit and go back to doing whatever low grade morons do all day...what's that called...Fortnight?
The entire Mediterranean was interconnected sure, your access to bloodlines is retarded because that would flow both ways, you know, like a society. But remember the Pyramids were built in fucking 2600 BC https://www.ancient.eu/article/862/the-step-pyramid-of-djoser/ and obviously the Egyptians existed earlier than that, much much earlier as the First Dynasty is like 3100 BC https://www.ancient.eu/First_Dynasty_of_Egypt/ What were our european ancestors doing then? Maybe stone henge?
Clearly, that First Dynasty predates recorded European history. Also Ptolemaic Egypt was Greek YOU GOT ONE RIGHT! BUT, founded in 305 BC. So like almost 3000 years after First Dynasty. Oof.
Light skinned africans are (wait for it) light skinned. Red hair is found all over africa, north and south of the Sahara (Himba people of namibia) and eye color also is wide spread, red hair and colored eyes are found in the Eurasian steppe and in Australia. WAIT YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE RIGHT! Egyptians certainly took slaves, we know this because, as you said, we have hieroglyphics about it. In case you weren't aware, hieroglyphics are a written language. They wrote it all over there massive empire that was big enough to traverse a continent and take slaves then build huge buildings that still stand.
There are no indigenous domesticable animals in Sub Sahara. Dumb people think because Zebras and horses look alike they are able to be domesticated but they aren't. Even today we can't domesticate Zebras because they are fucking retarded. https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/animals/we-domesticated-horses-why-not-zebras.html. They in fact are not as retarded as you, because Musk Ox don't even live in Africa. Did you mean Cape Buffalo? And are you too dumb to know a cape buffalo isn't a water buffalo? Because water buffalo also don't live in africa. That fucking Cape Buffalo is a tank with hooves and had NEVER been domesticated. It's one of Africas biggest killers even today. This is why express and magnum ammo is used on them.
Big cats are able to be domesticated but why? They require more food input than humans and are direct food competitors and you can't use them for work, or battle, or transportation. The term you meant was pet. Good luck catching a tiger with spears! No one domesticated big cats until sort of recently. Also they didn't have doggos, no doggos that the ATF shoots anyway. They had African Wild Dogs which are closer to Hyenias and, you guessed it (well you didn't but the smart people reading this did), they have never been domesticated.
You last statement is extra dumb, even dumb for you. Seriously impressively.dumb for a backwards racist. They DID trade for those things, especially after contact with other cultures. By this point though the damage was done. Rome toppled North Africa (Scippio) during the Punic wars. Rome also did the same to Europe coincidentally. Then the Muslims conquered Africa and are still, basically, there. As for sub saharan it was the opposite of what you think. They did trade for those things, have you ever noticed how many spices Indian food and eastern/southern african foods share? Wonder why. So if Africans didn't get animals as force multipliers until long after Euros and Asians then Africans were pretty far down the tech tree when the fighting started. You can imagine how that ended. You realise the Americas had the same plight? With the exception of Llamas (cringy drama lamas) in southern south america they had nothing. The Spanish guarded horses like the weapons they were and the South Wester Indians didn't have access to them until the 16th century. The Komanche went from dirt dwellers to human blenders of hooves in about two centuries. Seriously rivaling the mongols or Scythians as riders. But there's a long time between stirrup and gunpowder on the tech tree https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Summer-Moon-Comanches-Powerful/dp/1416591060
In summation (and in seriousness) the totality of human existence is vast and, while I'm not excusing the situation blacks in america have been put in and to a large extent put themselves into, it's better to realize that things are complicated and generally multifaceted and that history is WAY bigger than people realize. I should know, I still don't have enough degrees to be taken seriously on acedmia (and I have like 4)
Now that's the kind of shit I LOVE.
I greatly enjoyed that.
One honest question, what about sea travel?
Why didn't more cultures on that continent use outrigger canoes or other things and go farther over ocean?
So you're an ancient European. You wake up every day and drink a glass of milk from your cheeseburger machine, eat some fresh butt nuggets from your walking chicken tendie and then spend 8 hours in the field tilling and planting or some such shit. Then at the end of the day you put away the Ox, slaughter the magic animal that makes bacon, ham, and sausage. Eat a massive dinner, bang your big tittied blonde wife and still have like four hours in the day to paint, or invent or work on projects that don't involve your survival.
Juxtapose that vs ancient african who wakes up and doesn't have friendly fast food animals hanging out. Then he has to use his big black body that, in a few centuries would be the bull to u/miggers wife but instead has to do all the work. So either he works longer than his Euro counterpart or is less productive. He then goes home, eats a less nutritional and small meal, bones his wife because he's also not yet the bull for u/ATFNoKillDoggo s mom and has no spare time to invent floaty bois to go find the white women. u/300tist hates both of those guys and finds those family members to ugly to fornicate and would rather the black guy do it, bit also hates the two
Eventually you get to building your first boats but your so far down the tech tree that Zeng Hi rolls up with a 500 foot long monstrosity and sweeps you from the waves. No asian chicks to bull either.
To be fair, that's not an area I know a ton about but that's a summation almost verbatim from Gun, Germs, and Steel
Well fuck, you have now added that to my reading list.
It's amazing that bestgunnit members feature so prominently in history! I always just figured we were only known for butt plug bayonets and toes.
Yo, a couple things. I have a rebuttal for most if not all of this, but I'm actually in a hurry this morning. I just wanted to check in.
I did mean Cape Buffalo, which can be selectively bred like boars and wolves into a domesticated form. That's how cattle works. My bad on the wrong species, you wouldn't do that though because you aren't retarded.
Tigers don't exist in Africa. But I'll give you points for calling Africans spear chuckers. LMAO. They truly are dumb aren't they?
Anyway. I'll write more out when I have some time. I'd like to address more points, but I've got shit to do today.
Please, rebuttal welcome. Real quick:
Forgive the hyperbole but to be clear: Cape Buffalo aren't ACTUAL tanks, Zebras arnt literally retarded (allegedly), and Tigers don't live in Africa (which was a reference from The African Queen, good movie, check it out) Glad you got the joke?
And no, Cape Buffalo have never been domesticated. Maybe it's possible with modern/future technology, infinite money, and nothing better to do but to what end? For anyone without modern technology to do it is laughable. Sure, catching a wild boar in a snare and moving it into a pen seems hard but, not impossible. After a couple pig generations (remember within a couple months new born pigs can breed) it's not hard to imagine a friendly bacon pet. Now, do the same for indians domesticating Buffalo (we really only just sort of figured that out now) and take away horses because they didn't have those yet. What kind of fence can you build to hold one? How to you separate two from the heard of hundreds without the others coming to free it? Oh shit you need to be able to prevent it from attacking you as well. Impossible in the old world but, I guess I'll see if you can supply proof.
I don't expect you to ever get around to your rebuttals though
I love the constant excuses for zebras not being domesticatable. It's true, they are far shittier than donkeys or horses, but they are still capable of pulling things. Whites were able to get them to pull shit as a novelty without much difficulty. The reason they don't though? They aren't as good as other options. The thing is, whites did it briefly, Africans had millennium with Zebras and other animals to selectively breed them them to a more usable stock. They never did it. I don't know that they ever had the notion to do so. And that's the crux of the issue. Africans never had the imagination to get anything better for themselves. They never had the drive and intellect to create anything of merit for the world as a whole. The colonial period was a time of massive induction of ideas and technology, and from Africa we got... nothing? Even the Native Americans had boats, hunting routes, farming techniques, and survival skills that the pioneers were able to learn from and benefit from. No domesticatable animals in North America either if I remember correctly. South America also had flourishing cities, agriculture, social structures, etc. and their only domesticated animal on the continent was the llama.
And as for trading for better animals, they didn't do much with them. Native Americans got horses and that was it for them. Africans couldn't figure out how to have a stable or a ranch for the animals they traded for? They couldn't breed a sustainable generation of horses or cattle from the Arabs? They couldn't make a road or use a cart? There will be a ton of long explanations for why the African was simply unable to do so, but there's a simple explanation. Their average IQ is 70. They aren't smart enough as a group to get it done. Even today, they don't have the structure to build society except where colonial whites came and started it for them. And then when they take over things get very shitty very fast.
Africans, particularly sub-saharan africans are objectively not that smart, have not contributed anything of value to the western world, and were unlikely to develop into anything of significance without the intervention of more intelligent races.
First, review the difference between "tame" and "domesticated" I swear you were built from spare parts. Bears can be tamed, Gorillas can be tamed, hell even batshit liberal women can be tamed. But they cannot be domesticated. Domestication involves multigenerational captive breading (amongst other things And besides the occasional success breaking one, that doesn't mean it bears lineage that will respond that way. Here's a quick one that talks about that here
Why does that matter? Because domestication is about long term breading and use. One Zebra is great, but if it's foals are still crazy and unresponsive then you have a pet that provides little use, especially in the mass numbers necessary to establish a civilization level benefit. They did find success with a "Zonkey" but clearly that had a Donkey that helped in the process.
Also, I'm excited you brought up the Rothschild's bet about one (I'm sure you think thats evidence and part of some New conspiracy) but that's a very well known case and I was hoping you would mention it, everyone does when talking about this subject. Go back and read the article you linked and look at the time, expense and absolute amount of previously acquired equestrian knowledge that made that possible. Again, taming an animal is a different thing than domestication. As we still can't domesticate them today (but we can, still, tame them). I know you're thinking "take enough of them and..." No, again, read the first article, that's not how this works
Your second paragraph must have been written by some kind of retard whose parents were also cousins because it's dumb even by your standards. Africans had canoes, just like Indians. African had cities of comparable size of Indian and South American ones. None of that is even debatable. Africans had farming techniques, they were similar to the native societies you just mentioned. Then your line about uncreative and dumb is so uncreative and dumb I'm starting to think I'm arguing with an 8 year old since there's no way to prove any of that. And since, as we established, Africa has plenty of civilizations. Please go back and review any of the affor mentioned sub-saharan societies we talked about earlier, you'll see examples of all the stuff you said didn't exist.
I'm starting to think maybe you're brain damaged because it's unreal how dumb you sound. Just an aside, I'm showing this to people I work with, even the black ones and they aren't mad at all. They feel like your education system has failed you. Black people, objectively smarter than you, pity you.
Indians did get Horses and it revolutionized their society. Issue was they got them after their civilization collapsed due to an estimated 90% of them dying from disease. I feel like you should know some of this. It's comical how poorly read you are. We've already went over how far behind you are when advanced societies show up at your door.
Those IQ studies you talk about are of MODERN PEOPLE. If you don't understand why a well educated white guy in Virginia has an IQ higher than a Sudanese man who's been fighting war for years then you're pretty fucking embarrassing. Even the IQ difference in the US have less to do with skin color and more to do with zip code.
You can think black folks are dumb, but I want you to step back and realize how absolutely inept this argument made you look. You would think, being so certain of how smart your race is you would spend some time utilizing all that big brain you've got but clearly you don't. The certainty with which your last paragraph was written is awesome, it's like your dumb, and you know your dumb, and it was proven you're dumb but you're happy just being dumb
Your bullshit racism only hurts our forum.