Well that would be an effective way to cut out the supplies and reloading ability of people going forward with one time use casings then mandate they be used for environmental reasons.
I wonder if that new round will still be re-loadable. It finally looks like something that gives a reason to switch from .308 or .223 if they can make it cheap enough, though. Now I'm imagining that hybrid case design being scaled up or down into all kinds of crazy wildcats...
The Textron looks unwieldy with that buffalo hump thing on the bottom of the rail. Also weird choice with the UCIW stock on a full size rifle... its like they're scrounging to save length when they could have increased their suppressor diameter and shortened it.
I like the other two... guess it depends on performance and if you wanna fuck with some peoples minds by handing them a bullpup. Grip on the bullpup seems like it shouldn't be so steep, though. I personally find it hard to imagine the US adopting a bullpup rifle as the standard.
I agree a bullpup seems like a hard sell to an organization like the mil that is hard af to change. Barrel length vs overall package length is a consideration though as regards trying to get their new whizbang cartridge up to enough speed to kill that well equipped raghead or commie faggot. Errybodys got armor now.
What i find humorous is the desire to go to a longer range harder hitting cartridge after the opposite happening so comparitively recently with the move from battle rifles to assault rifles in the 'nam era.
Sig's cartridge is like 80,000 PSI, which is why it has a steel case head... thats 15,000 PSI above a .270 WSM, which is already nuts. I think they're trying to achieve that performance out of a 16 inch barrel, which is why the suppressor is mandatory... its basically a 270 WSM+15k PSI extra with a faster burning powder out of a 16"-ish barrel. Instant ear death.
I just don't understand the long game involved in the transition... there's gotta be something more compact for the high speed crowd, but a cartridge like Sig's is gonna be a doozy to deal with in a SBR unless you do start complicating things (integral suppression, constant recoil, lower cyclic rate, etc)
You assume us mere mortals will be allowed to purchase this next generation of guns & ammo...
Three Letters Good. Normie Citizens bad.
Ill stick with my dildo launcher.
Why the General Dynamics rifle has an old oil filter on the front remains a mystery
Also, u/m1919a2 here's where the new hybrid 6.8 round is better than mememoore (according to the people that make the new 6.8)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.277_FURY
Well that would be an effective way to cut out the supplies and reloading ability of people going forward with one time use casings then mandate they be used for environmental reasons.
Mandating the use of a non-reusable petrobased polymer for environmental reasons seems pretty fucking smol brained to me.
... which is why they're gonna double down and go for it.
I wonder if that new round will still be re-loadable. It finally looks like something that gives a reason to switch from .308 or .223 if they can make it cheap enough, though. Now I'm imagining that hybrid case design being scaled up or down into all kinds of crazy wildcats...
Polymer-cased ammo is not re-loadable. Once the ammo purchasing bans come down, what you have is all you will ever have.
No infantrymen were consulted before these were made.
I tend to agree, that's why I think the sig wins becomes it's closest to M16
I wouldn't throw that SIG spear out of the bed for eating crackers. Nice looking gun.
I have no idea which one is better but i have a suspicion the composite case of the sig round has advantages.
The textron example i believe has some ammo backing from places affiliated with HK, though i could be wrong.
Aren't they looking at trying to get 300 win mag punch from these rifles? Sexy af if so.
The Textron looks unwieldy with that buffalo hump thing on the bottom of the rail. Also weird choice with the UCIW stock on a full size rifle... its like they're scrounging to save length when they could have increased their suppressor diameter and shortened it.
I like the other two... guess it depends on performance and if you wanna fuck with some peoples minds by handing them a bullpup. Grip on the bullpup seems like it shouldn't be so steep, though. I personally find it hard to imagine the US adopting a bullpup rifle as the standard.
I agree a bullpup seems like a hard sell to an organization like the mil that is hard af to change. Barrel length vs overall package length is a consideration though as regards trying to get their new whizbang cartridge up to enough speed to kill that well equipped raghead or commie faggot. Errybodys got armor now.
What i find humorous is the desire to go to a longer range harder hitting cartridge after the opposite happening so comparitively recently with the move from battle rifles to assault rifles in the 'nam era.
What is old is new again!
I drink to your health,
Call me a Fudd it looks like they basically want to shoot a .270 out of a fancy .308 case that can't be reloaded...
Sig's cartridge is like 80,000 PSI, which is why it has a steel case head... thats 15,000 PSI above a .270 WSM, which is already nuts. I think they're trying to achieve that performance out of a 16 inch barrel, which is why the suppressor is mandatory... its basically a 270 WSM+15k PSI extra with a faster burning powder out of a 16"-ish barrel. Instant ear death.
I just don't understand the long game involved in the transition... there's gotta be something more compact for the high speed crowd, but a cartridge like Sig's is gonna be a doozy to deal with in a SBR unless you do start complicating things (integral suppression, constant recoil, lower cyclic rate, etc)
One of the Sigs (I don't know if it's this one or the new IAR weapon) has a reciprocating barrel to offset the kick. I thought that was bonkers
The Chinese don't use body armor on standard troops. Even if they did it wod be that cheap Chinese knockoff stuff
Don't they also put female infants in baby carriers on the chest as improvised body armor?
I fucking hate the chinese communist government.
Sounds like a bunch of shit for brains faggots to me
These do not spark joy.
And by joy I mean erection.
Imagine trying to reload it from the prone
As long as those make it into civilian circulation, I will consider being called a Fudd an honor.
Isn't the textron open bolt? Not that the poors around here could afford it.
Textron giving off some XCOM rifle vibes.
That last one is pretty sexy not gonna lie.