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MobyDickhead 2 points ago +2 / -0

A shame they are sold out.

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MobyDickhead 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have sheets of old iron a few feet under in my yard, just waiting for the day.

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MobyDickhead 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't forget the ball bearings and nails.

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MobyDickhead 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep it sucks, we now have a separate licence for semi-auto rifles and a separate for "hi-cap" mags, some people have even been approved for the rifle and denied for the mags, go figure.

Plenty had boating accidents, many more just sold them to the gangs who made it very publicly known that they were buying pretty much everything at a much higher rate than what the govt were willing to pay. I know of someone that parted with a sizeable cache to the Hells Angels who paid 10x what the govt were going to pay. With the price of methamphetamine here and the amount they sell, they probably had a larger buyback budget than the govt. In terms of registration, only 14k firearms that had to be handed in were registered, these were guns that fit the definition of an "assault weapon" or as we called them here Military Style Semi-autos. Most of these got handed in but they are still tracking down a few.

The police, govt and media are burying their heads in the sand, they state that it was a great success but everyone knows it was a massive failure. They had 56k firearms handed in in total, one of our largest firearms sellers have stated they imported over 60k chinese SKS rifles in the 80's alone. It was only up to about 10 years ago they were still selling them by the crate.

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MobyDickhead 2 points ago +2 / -0

They are not men, remember commies ain't people.

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MobyDickhead 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh man that would have been neat. He seems like a pretty stand up dude from the interviews etc that I've seen of him.

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MobyDickhead 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well in terms of the law the semi-auto centrefire rifles are "gone", in reality there are still probably 200k+ in now illegal circulation. Though no one is using them in public other than our outlaw mc and ethnic gangs.

We can still have them with the correct licencing as collectors but it is quite difficult to get, I haven't bothered. This basically means my collection of functioning automatic lmg's and select-fire rifles are less restricted than a remington 7400 hunting rifle. For a pest control licence it is even more difficult so now various areas are being overrun with rabbits, goats and wallabies because no one can be fucked shooting them now that the most effective tools for the job are unobtainable.

We can still have semi-auto rimfire and shotgun as federated farmers & fish and game (farmer & game bird hunter lobbyists) pushed for it but we are limited on mag size to 10 for rimfire & centrefire bolt/lever and 5 for all shotguns though this is "commensurate to chamber size", one could theoretically use more than 5 smaller shells in a 3.5" chambered shotgun but this hasn't been challenged in court as for obvious reasons no one wants to be a martyr. They have also recently banned pump action centrefire rifles to match the ban on shotguns with detachable mags as well as restricting ownership of pistol carbine kits.

It's pretty bad, the NZ media were complicit in perpetuating our governments lie that it was only "assault rifles and military style semi automatics" affected, they failed to mention that all semi-automatic centrefire rifles were reclassified as "military style semi automatics", ironically the actual "assault rifles" were not touched in any of the law changes, probably because a few of our politicians own substantial personal collections themselves.

They punished almost 300k Kiwi's due to the actions of an Australian who somehow received a firearms licence within 6 weeks of being in the country, that is a fact that Police, Govt and Media continue to sweep under the rug and refuse to answer any questions on.

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MobyDickhead 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's now our issue in NZ, plenty of banned firearms still out there that people didn't hand in but no one can use them except our outlaw mc and ethnic gangs who generally disregard the law anyway.

Even if our laws change in the future to allow them again, they will likely need to be registered so anyone that held onto them won't be able to register them as they were unlawfully held so they end up in the same place, some pvc piping buried in the back yard.

An ironic unintended consequence to the govt and police is that the 99% of firing ranges in NZ are privately owned by individuals or owned by clubs, as per law they all have to have range standing orders that all users need to agree to. Those RSO's all prohibit the use of "prohibited firearms" and NZ police have to abide by them when using the ranges for training. Every club that has been approached by police to put an exemption in their RSO's to allow them to use their bushmasters for training have told them to go and pound sand.

This means that police can only use their one range and 2 military base ranges for training for the entire police force nationwide which is a massive inconvenience to them. The club that I am a member of has downright banned police from using the range in any official category, individual officers can join and use the range as a private member but cannot use prohibited firearms. Unlike the US, NZ police cannot take their service weapons home or to the range outside of official training or on the job callouts where firearms are specifically needed.

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MobyDickhead 11 points ago +11 / -0

We thought the same thing in New Zealand until the Christchurch massacre, our semi-autos on a standard licence were basically neutered "assault weapons" in that we couldn't have flash hiders. bayonet lugs, pistol grips etc and mag capacity of 7 max (solely to remove garands) as well as more traditional hunting semi-autos like the Remington 7400.

However we did have an additional endorsement (E-cat/MSSA) to the licence which was a little harder to get but allowed everything semi-auto you could think of with the exception of overall length needing to be 30.19" minimum to avoid it being classified as a pistol.

Only 8k of the 250-300k licence holders in NZ had that endorsement and accounted for 0% of gun crime since 1992 when that endorsement/law was created. When they said they were banning all semi auto centrefire rifles they also included bolt/lever/pump rifles with mag/tube capacity over 10 and all shotguns with detachable mags and tubes with capacity over 5 rounds of whatever the chamber size was, but this was not at all reported in the media, it was just "military-style semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles" so much for just semi-auto centrefire rifles.

We thought people with an "E-cat" endorsement would be fine, we were very wrong. They got rid of the endorsement and reclassified all semi-autos as military style semi-automatics including the traditional hunting ones and they were all banned. The govt also changed arms export laws at the same time so we could not sell overseas to get better pricing than the lowball offer the govt gave.

They have now just recently banned pump action rifles with detachable mags completely which boned many an ex AR15 owner who bought a Remington 7600's or Troy PAR15's so they could continue to put their expensive as fuck acogs to use, they have also tried to ban pistol carbine kits but just made them require registration (like pistols) and pistol endorsement and also created 2 new class of pistol called a "small semi auto pistol" which has a max length of 15.7" to sop people from putting a long barrel in their glock and using a carbine kit at the same time turning it into a Prohibited pistol (the other class).

You tists need to fight this as hard as you can and everyone should be buying more guns and boats lest you end up like us because as you can see from New Zealand, if you give them an inch they will take 10 miles. Unfortunately New Zealand doesn't have the same culture around firearms compared to the US and a lot of our licence holders are fudds that think you only need a single shot .308 and an over/under 12ga so there was very little push back with the exception of the 3gunners/service match shooters etc and one political party who went from 1 politician to 10 politicians in the election last month as a result.

Despite the ban there has only been 56k firearms handed in, our largest retailer alone has imported at least 60k norinco sks rifles since the 80's so when our govt/police call it a success it was actually a dismal failure.

Ironically, despite what the media said, full-auto and select fire actual assault rifles held on a collector endorsement were left alone so my working machine guns are still legal for now but the slippery slope is no longer a fallacy.

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MobyDickhead 4 points ago +4 / -0

I might have a chance getting in with Jo, would be self imposed exile from New Zealand where our fun guns are banned. Thank God myself and the owners of the other "missing" 250k+ banned firearms all own boats I guess.