I’m a moron when it comes to ballistics so can someone explain (without big words - I’m a dumb dumb) how the Glock wielding dude nearly had his arm taken off by what I presume was a 5.56 AR-15 while the guy that got shot in the head had a small entry wound?
Did the guy who got shot in the head get grazed? Also my stupid understanding of 5.55 was that since it is so high velocity it usually gots straight through and doesn’t tumble like 7.62x39
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no, he was a few feet away. the angle kind of hides it but there's a picture that shows a 6-7 foot gap between the muzzle and arm
https://streamable.com/b5456i
Damn, that was a pretty sweet supine leg takedown he did. Are we sure he didn’t train with Ip Man or some shit?
That angle makes it look like it was right up on the muzzle. Gonna need to see that picture to be convinced otherwise. I’m on the boat it was the muzzle blast that fucked his arm up good.
Here is a photo of before and after being shot. You can tell in the lower half he is shot because the dark spot has appeared where it wasn't before, and that is his exposed muscle.
It's just what happens when you're shot by an AR15.
The second picture he’s right up on the kid though. I’m not going to say you’re wrong but I’m still leaning towards muzzle blast too.
He's not right up on him, or at least not to the point where muzzle blast is going to cause the damage rather than the bullet. His arm is a good 4 feet away there, and he was shot while moving towards him, so it could easily have been 6-8 feet away at the time of being shot.
Photo of while beeing shot, red mist
Good photo. If it was muzzle blast, his left arm would have been damaged.
taken down.
here's a webm link from /pol/ https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1598477541055.webm
here's a youtube link with commentary:
https://youtu.be/MTxCxsRbjKs
What a learning odyssey you have in front of you friend!
So, the 5.56 is a really neat round that does a few things on different loadings and different velocities. It can fragment and yaw and do horrible, horrible things to the bags of bones wrapped in fluid, fat and chinese made clothing that people are.
I could talk for hours on this and get very drunk but I am at work so I cannot. My advice is to go to AR15.com and read their ammo FAQs and read every damn thing you can everywhere.
Remember, as an armed citizen you don't need to limit yourself to full metal jacket, I rock soft points in my go to AR.
Uncle Scruffy
For the arfcom link:
https://www.ar15.com/ammo-oracle/
Just helping out while you're at work. I am also but fucking off between meetings.
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Thanks man. That's precisely the ticket.
Scruffs, tell me about Varmit rounds. I bought them as they were the last 5.56/.233 in the store and I hear conflicting things.
As a Marine my world began and ended with ball
I'd try shooting them at the range and make sure they feed. I've had issue with some softpoints and ballistic tips have issued feeding in my rifles before. The ballistic tips were just a bit longer than a normal .223 round, to be fair the guy at the counter said they were really for bolt guns, and some times soft points can deform just enough to cause feed issues. Although I notice it more with calibers like .30-06.
Near as I can tell you lose intermediate barrier penetration vs a huge temporary wound channel and increased energy transfer. I don't mind as I don't want to shoot through cover with my "fuck you and everyone with you" rifle.
Likely losing most of the penetration, so aim for the boiler room or the head, 55gr will still rip shit apart though. The golden ticket for lethality on unarmored targets is the barnes tsx, and apparently the hornady 75gr tap t2, the tap has worse effectivness through barriers though. 77smk has been stacking bodies like a mother fucker overseas. Look up ballistic testing of whatever you bought, and then look at other 5.56 and compare them, varmint isn't ideal but you can blast a hole through concrete with a .22 if you hammer the same spot enough
Big reason is bullet is supersonic
Skull hard. Muscle soft. Very fast bullets create large cavities in soft things. They punch holes in hard things.
There was actually tissue in the dudes arm, there was nothing in the brainlets head to hit
it didn't go in the correct spot to dump all its energy into doming him. It was basically right on the temporal bone and continued either straight on or back outside of his body. If it had deflected inwards, he would have had the big hole we expect.
You 'tists know that AR-15s can be chambered in pretty much any caliber right? The headshot looked like a graze to me.
muscle in arm, nothing in head.
Entry wounds are usually neat little holes. Exit wounds are often a heaping spoonful of cherry cobbler.
Think about how your entry and exit look when drilling through wood. Except wood is solid and flesh is mostly water so it imparts a hydrostatic shock. Watch a vid of ballistics gel shot in slow motion and see how it deforms like crazy. If you saw that commie's arm meat in slow motion it woulda looked like that.